Did SEVENTEEN's Hoshi just shade BTS? ARMY and Carats clash over his Instagram activity
SEVENTEEN, who were also nominated that year for their powerful track Fear, had their fans - Carats - feeling their group was unfairly "robbed" of the title. Tensions have now resurfaced after an Instagram post revisiting the debate went viral. What ignited the flames further? SEVENTEEN's Hoshi, leader of the group's performance team, liked the post - sparking a fresh clash between ARMY and Carats across social media.
BTS winning the Best Dance Performance Male Group award at the 2019 MAMA Awards
— archive 93 (@mygrchive) July 22, 2025
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SEVENTEEN's Hoshi likes an Instagram video
Carats were seen claiming BTS didn't deserve the win that year, suggesting they only won because of their popularity. That, paired with Hoshi's like added fuel to the fire.
A screenshot of Hoshi's like was shared on X (formerly known as Twitter), with one viral post reading, "He's about to enlist so he just doesn't gaf anymore," racking up over 22,000 likes. The drama had officially begun - especially since many ARMYs hadn't even seen the original video until the screenshot started spreading.
Did Hoshi really throw shade at BTS?
It's all speculation, but ARMY believe Hoshi's like may have been a subtle jab at BTS, especially given the years-long debate over the 2019 award. Carats, however, insist it was innocent. Some said he may have simply appreciated his group's performance, while others pointed out the caption was in English - implying he might not have understood the post's tone or the fan commentary that followed.
begging everyone to put themselves in hoshi's place. a normal person who doest gaf about fanwars liking a video of his group's dance performance with a caption saying they fucking killed it on stage even after losing the award for dance IM BEGGING HIS FANS' VIEWS ARE NOT HIS OWN
— hoshi misser (@hoshkoo) July 22, 2025
Still, ARMYs pushed back, saying even if Hoshi didn't intend to start anything, the tone of the post - and especially the comments beneath it -clearly suggested that BTS didn't deserve the win. That was enough to reopen old wounds.
Carats knew that Hoshi was acting shady and they approved of it by giving the tweet 22K likes. They thought he was funny and real. I saw the comments
— J7K (@_here4jk) July 22, 2025
But after we knew about it, they started creating excuses for him because they realized how bitter and unprofessional he looked pic.twitter.com/TmhTD331FZ
ARMY vs Carats: A fanwar reignites
Soon, the situation spiraled. As the screenshots went viral, the original Instagram post and the X tweet were both deleted - possibly an attempt to cool the fire.
But the damage was already done. What started as a like turned into a full-on fanwar, with Hoshi caught in the middle. Whether it was a genuine mistake or quiet shade remains unknown - but speculation have been running wild, and K-pop Twitter is once again divided. Both sides have shared their own narrative with ARMY being loud on why Boy With Luv deserved the award and won it on merit.
That's how that one came to post "Drink responsibly" for an endorsement during the height of Yoongi's hate train and his fandom turned it into Yoongi shade... pic.twitter.com/nOhOiMr431
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They already are
— ruby ⁷ 아포방포 ʙᴛꜱ ʏᴇᴀʀ (@3_FOR875) July 22, 2025
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Mine) https://t.co/bIxYsZWUivpic.twitter.com/A2eFfKQrUt
More about BTS and SEVENTEEN military enlistment
While all seven BTS members - Jin, Suga, J-Hope, RM, Jimin, V, and Jung Kook - have completed their mandatory military service and were discharged by July 2025, SEVENTEEN is still in the process of enlisting, with members serving one by one.
The group's leader and eldest member, S.Coups, has been officially exempted from military duty due to health reasons. Jeonghan was the first among SEVENTEEN to enlist, beginning his service on September 26, 2024. Wonwoo followed on April 3, 2025.
Up next are Hoshi and Woozi, who are both scheduled to begin their service in September 2025. Woozi will enlist on September 15, followed by Hoshi on September 16. Before heading off, the duo will take part in their final official activities, including a fan concert and a video call fan signing event to bid farewell to fans.
As for the rest of the group, Joshua is exempt from military service due to his U.S. citizenship, while Jun and The8 are also not required to enlist, as they hold Chinese citizenship.
DK is expected to enlist before turning 30 on February 18, 2027. Mingyu must do so by April 6, 2027, while Seungkwan's deadline falls before his 30th birthday on January 16, 2028. Dino, the youngest Korean member, must enlist by February 11, 2029.
Vernon, though born in the United States, holds dual citizenship including South Korean nationality, which requires him to serve. He must enlist by February 18, 2028, before he turns 30.
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